Kim B has a powerful story about survival. She was sexually abused by a family member when she was a child. But no one believed her which caused her even more trauma. She turned to drugs to escape. The numb felt better than her reality. Now, Kim is the primary therapist at one of the best treatment centers in Arizona, Pinnacle Peak Recovery. She's also a supporter of harm reduction (so am I). We talk about meeting addicts where they're currently at and talk about way to heal from trauma.