Matt and Julie take a road trip to London, Ontario to interview Dr. Amanda Bell about her experiences working in group homes, child protection and in treating sexual offenders and sexual assault survivors. Amanda discusses the importance of doing our own work and her  personal experience with vicarious trauma. 

EMDR and Play Therapy are two modalities that Amanda teaches and uses in her private practice and she gives insight into how she integrates both therapies into her work with children. This episode focuses on child sexual abuse and offender treatment and it's impact on victims and helpers- some content may be upsetting for some listeners