We speak with Jan Jekielek a senior editor with *The Epoch Times* and host of the show “American Thought Leaders.” Jan’s career has spanned academia, international human rights work, and now for almost two decades, media. He has interviewed nearly a thousand thought leaders on camera, and specializes in long-form discussions challenging the grand narratives of our time. He’s also an award-winning documentary filmmaker, producing *The Unseen Crisis*, *DeSantis: Florida vs. Lockdowns*, and *Finding Manny*.

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