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Chirryl-Lee Ryan and I were recently together on a design-panel, Designing for Social Impact, for Academy XI in Sydney and had a whale of a time.

We caught up in Melbourne a few days later to extend that conversation, and go deeper into areas that we touched on at the Designing for Social Impact design panel.

In this episode, we discuss;

Are we making things better with design?

The problems service design and UX

Are we making things better with design?

What shoes would Chirryl wear in a zombie apocalypse?

...and what the future of service design and design in general looks like through Chirryl's eyes

Links mentioned in this episode

Journey of a Coke Can

Ka-Ching Movie

Chirryl-Lee Ryan on LinkedIn

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