This first episode of Season 3 unfolds in bed, in the company of ancestors. We begin with a strange presence in the room who leads us into a conversation about grief, ritual, and legacy.

Chopp shares about caregiving, assisted death, memorial-making, and the ways we choose to honor the people who raised us. We talk about parents and ancestors, risk and art, and the quiet (and sometimes loud) practices that make loss survivable.

A reminder: these conversations are meant for slow listening. Take it on a walk, tune in to accompany a sleepless night, or a long drive. These episodes are created with the intention of living with grief, not moving past it. They are released as they are made.

Chopp is an interior designer, spatial artist, and transformer of space. This conversation was recorded on September 5, 2025.