We continue our conversation with Jon Mathieu. Jon founded - and now co-pastors - the church called Harbor Online, which gathers - you guessed it - online. In part two of our interview, John shares some recent innovations at Harbor, including the adoption of a multi-staff model with three part-time co-pastors. We explore that. John details for us the ends and outs of a weekly gathering at Harbor, and why this church gives you permission - and even gentle encouragement - to miss that gathering when you need the space.

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