Chris Blask has a long career bringing new ideas to reality. He currently is Vice President of Strategy at Cybeats, who has a SBOM Studio product.

Cybeats is different in that SBOM Studio does not create SBOMs. This requires SBOMs to be available from somewhere, and Dale & Chris spend a lot of the podcast talking about the SBOM market today and in the future.

• What percentage of the OT software solutions have SBOMs today? What will that number be in three years, five years, seven years?
• When will the top 10% asset owners be able to be get value worth the effort from SBOMs and related tools and information?
• What will the SBOM marketplace look like?
• the DBOM.io project

Of course being Dale and Chris, they deviate into a lot of other topics. Such as Chris's quotes:

• "Security comes through transparency and automation"
• "2020, this is the last decade of cybersecurity" "the last decade when entirely new fields will be discovered" I think we have covered the field.