I welcome Chris DiLeo to the podcast this week, my second returning guest. We talk about the inspiration for his novella, Empty Devils, creating story from real tragedy, and the brilliance of Clay McLeod Chapman.

You can order a copy of Empty Devils directly from the publisher at https://sobelobooks.com/shop/p/empty-devils

You can also follow Chris at: authordileo.substack.com/ and as @authordileo on the social media platforms that matter.