I speak with the CEO of Revaluate, a real estate data analytics company, about a wide range of topics from the secrets of Korean karaoke to bespoke tailoring to data. The real conversation, of course, is about the new FCC rule combined with the feature in iOS 13 that blocks unwanted phone calls. Chris had written about how that could kill lead generation in real estate. So we talk about that, then follow up with a wide ranging conversation about data, privacy, removing the "creepy" factor from predictive analytics, about the future of lead generation in real estate.