Doc speaks with Underoath keyboard player, Chris Dudley, about meeting and touring together in 2003, their love for Jimmy Eat World, Underoath's role as a trailblazer bringing keyboards into the hardcore scene, what it was like to have success with Spencer joining the band on Only Chasing Safety, experimenting with their sound over the years, why they broke up and what he did in the intervening years, how his and the band's relationship with Christian faith has evolved over the years.

This episode features the song "Bullets" by EVERYBODY PANIC! and "On My Teeth" by Underoath.

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