Chris Gees knows Oprah. Chris Gees knows Beyonce. And Chris Gees has seen some of the most celebrated women in the world at their most unadorned, without their makeup, and without their Spanx, often in their sumptuous homes. Yet, Chris continues to treat everyone he meets with equal respect and kindness. If the way he dealt with me during the process of creating his podcast is typical (and I suspect that it is), each person he works with comes away feeling important.

When I decided to call my podcast “Finding Beauty,” I was talking mainly about inner beauty, or the kind of beauty we can find in life experiences. Still, I wondered how this top cosmetologist and hair stylist—who is also a singer, actor, and radio personality with a knowledge of costuming—would define the word. Without giving anything away, I must say that I loved Chris’s answer.