On the DSPN, host Martin Devlin chats with UK rugby reporter Chris Jones about the state of international rugby following the Rugby Championship, and ahead of the Autumn Internationals. The pair chat about the balance between experimentation and results, and the challenges facing major teams like the All Blacks and Wallabies as they look toward the next Rugby World Cup in two years' time. Chris offers sharp insight into squad depth, emerging players, and the shifting power among southern hemisphere nations.

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