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**Trigger warning: This episode talks explicitly about suicidal ideation and depression. If you are in crisis please call or text 988.

Ed and Kellie sit down with their long-time friend and FOR Students’ Videographer and Graphic Designer, Chris Lee. They talk playing music, becoming a full-time creative, and the stresses of working for non-profits with small teams. Very quickly, however, Chris opens up and is incredibly vulnerable around his marriage, boundaries, deteriorating mental health, separation, despair, and plans for suicide. It’s a tough and beautiful discussion around feeling lost and, with the help of friends, figuring out how to survive. You will be glad you listened.

Intro Music: Ways To Go, by GROUPLOVE- used with permission

Recorded at EVRYBDY Studios