Matt Crawford speaks with authors Chris Mefford and Kyle Buckett about their book, Leadership Is Overrated: How the Navy Seal (and Successful Businesses) Create Self-Leading Teams That Win. What is leadership and where did we all learn to define it? For many of us it happens in the business world through perpetual motion. Where do our current leaders get the skill and training to be effective? In most cases it is self-taught and taken from bad examples. Mefford and Buckett merge corporate culture with that of the Navy Seals to show us all what really works and what doesn't. This book should be required reading for those already in and those joining the business world, but also anyone in a leadership position. I hope you will listen to the interview and give the book a read.