Episode 1 of this podcast series with formers SA 7’s captain Kyle Brown, and Performance coach Tom Dawson-Squibb sees them joined by WP Rugby captain, Chris Van Zyl. Both Kyle and Chris have had interesting journeys in leadership experiencing some highs and some lows. They both open up remarkably on their journey and how they managed these both trying and joyful times. This is a riveting conversation not to be missed.