Matt (of Tactical Faith Radio fame) and Travis do a TF Radio and W_ndering Toward Wisdom joint interview with Christian B. Miller about his book "The Character Gap: How Good Are We?" Miller references numbers of empirical psychological studies that suggest that we are not as good as we think we are--nor are people as bad as we think they are. Rather, most of us lack both virtuous and vicious character. He also offers suggestions on how to develop truly virtuous character. Hint: Cinnamon rolls are not the answer (unfortunately).
This podcast is also available on TF radio: https://www.tacticalfaith.com/how-important-is-character-dr-christian-miller/
Check out Christian Miller's site: https://www.christianbmiller.com/
And look for his book: https://www.amazon.com/Character-Gap-Good-Philosophy-Action/dp/0190264225/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8