What do people actually mean when they say Christian nationalism—and why does the term spark so much confusion, fear, and controversy? In this episode, we slow the conversation down and ask better questions about faith, politics, moral authority, and the role of Christians in public life.

We’re joined by Dr. Todd Williams, president of Cairn University and a longtime scholar of social theory, civic life, and religious liberty. Drawing from decades of teaching and public engagement, Todd helps untangle how labels get weaponized, why neutrality is a myth, and what’s really at stake when Christians talk about law, nationhood, and moral vision.

At the heart of the conversation is a grounding reminder: politics cannot save us—but faith should still shape how we live, vote, and seek the good of our neighbors. This episode challenges fear-driven engagement and calls Christians back to thoughtful, faithful citizenship rooted in the gospel rather than cultural panic.