Thomas Obungen of Frolic Hawaii and Slug Media joins us to chat about Ice Cream Pies from Slice by HB Bakery - a pie shop with a twist from baker Heather Lukela.   What's not to love about that ?

And Christian Self, the owner of Bevy Bar and TacoAko joins Jo for an ex-pat chat ( he's from Liverpool , England and she's from Fife, Scotland ) about the world of craft cocktails.  If you're a fan of craft cocktails and cool accents then you'll enjoy this episode!