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Fr. Aaron speaks with Dr. Virginia Mayer who founded Living Waters Counseling (https://www.lwcounseling.net/) in Headland, Alabama, along with Kingdom College (https://www.kingdomcollege.net/) in the same town. "Ginger" had recently published a book "Modern-Day Sandcastles: The Fall of Denominationalism." While we didn't agree on all points, we were able to find common ground regarding the hope that Christians will seek unity where they can to stand against forces arrayed against the cause of Christ in the world. One point we could definitely agree on was that, for all the messiness of human organizations, which the Church certainly is, God takes inexplicable pleasure in using humans, flawed as we are, to perform His work in the world. 

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