In this conversation, Iris and Todd explore the complexities of integrated counseling, discussing the balance between Christian and secular approaches. They delve into the importance of emotional intelligence in parenting, the challenges faced by pastor's kids, and the significance of journaling and reflection in mental health. Todd shares insights on the role of faith in therapy and the necessity of creating a supportive environment for children, while also emphasizing the importance of rest and trust in God through the practice of Sabbath.