We discuss the best carols & Christmas films. John makes his opinions on Christmas cards known 😳😬 and we share why, despite all the pain and mess and helplessness this year has brought, Christmas points us to the one who makes sense of pain, meets us in our mess and is our ever present help. Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to us and makes it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks so much! Ji...