This interview was recorded in November of 22. A lot has changed in our worlds in such a short time. This episode is dedicated to the loving memory of Christopher's father Joseph Zucchero truly a self made man who built a wonderful life for himself and his family. Christopher actually takes a call from him during this interview. This one is hard because it was before everything went sideways with Oliver's diagnosis and Christopher's father. It is a reminder that all we have is this moment. Love and peace to everyone. Call an estranged loved one or a friendship that ended over something stupid, life is short.