Abby and Jim discuss the passing of John McCain, an American hero, and then discuss the separation of church and state. What does the Constitution have to say about religion? Is Utah's Proposition 2 a political issue or a moral one? And should Scientology become the state religion of Rhode Island? Sen. Alan Simpson, C.S. Lewis, and Karl Rove all get mentioned, too, for reasons that are better left unexplained. 

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