Yep, we’re going there. The summer church slump is real—but it might be hurting more than you think. In this episode, Greg and Nathan are joined by guest Matt Smith for a candid conversation about what’s really at stake when attendance dips during the warmer months. Is skipping church in July just harmless vacation rhythm—or does it reveal something deeper?

Together, they explore why regular gathering with God’s people matters year-round, how your presence might impact a first-time visitor more than you realize, and what the Bible has to say about community that doesn’t take a summer break. Whether you're a pastor, a faithful attender, or someone who's been drifting, this conversation is for you.

Tune in and let’s talk about it.