Oh boy...our first two-part episode!

We wanted to have a conversation about the Church...and, turns out we had a lot to say about it. (A former pastor, and a tired pastor...are you surprised?)

In this first part, we start by trying to define "Church", before then grappling with where we're at with the Church right now, and then starting to ask...is it worth it? Is it worth trying to correct, or should we just burn it all down??! 🙂🔥🔥 

Much more to come!

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