In this episode of Snarky Faith, Stuart talks with comedian, writer, and SiriusXM host John Fugelsang about his new book Separation of Church and Hate: A Sane Person's Guide to Taking Back the Bible from Fundamentalists, Fascists, and Flock-Fleecing Frauds. https://amzn.to/4b8yKKF

John grew up Catholic, spent years working in comedy and media, and has become one of the most recognizable voices calling out the way religion is used to justify cruelty, nationalism, and political power. In this conversation, he and Stuart dig into the strange marriage between faith and authoritarianism in America, the selective way the Bible gets used by modern fundamentalist movements, and why the loudest voices claiming persecution often hold the most influence.

They also explore the strange cultural divide between Catholic tradition and evangelical apocalypse obsession, why satire and humor can be powerful tools for exposing religious hypocrisy, and where people who genuinely take the teachings of Jesus seriously might still find space today.

It’s a sharp, funny, and thoughtful conversation about faith, power, scripture, and the ongoing fight to separate the teachings of Jesus from the machinery built around them.

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