The guys sit down with Dr. Ed Stetzer to talk about church health and revitalization. What are the basic symptoms of an unhealthy church, and what are the first steps in moving the church back toward biblical vitality? Ed has some great words for us all. And one of those words is "jackwagon." Be sure to follow Ed on Twitter at @edstetzer.

Who is Ed Stetzer? Don't pretend you don't know. Everybody knows that Ed holds the distinguished Billy Graham Chair of Church, Mission, and Evangelism at Wheaton College and serves as Executive Director of the Billy Graham Center. He has planted, revitalized, and pastored churches, trained pastors and church planters on six continents, holds two masters degrees and two doctorates, and has written dozens of articles and books.