Where to you go after you've been a TD for a while? For some, it's a new career; for others, it's into a creative director mode. We talk about that, along with some ideas on leading technical people and structuring the department.​

Guests:

Van Metschke

Ryan Howell

Theme song:

But I Play One on TV (I'm Not a Fuzoid) by Norm Stockton from his Tea in the Typhoon album.