This week, it's old guys vs. young guys! Well, not really. But Van and Mike talk with two younger tech leaders about the challenges and rewards of leading technical ministries as a 20-30-something. Warning, these two guys are really sharp--after listening to them, you're going to need to up your game!

Guests:

Van Metschke

Isaiah Franco

Tyler Kaneshiro

Theme song:

But I Play One on TV (I'm Not a Fuzoid) by Norm Stockton from his Tea in the Typhoon album.