In this episode, cohosts Jeremy Clark and Ryan Rambo clearly differentiate counterintelligence (CI) and human intelligence (HUMINT): definitions, core purposes (CI defends inside the wire; HUMINT collects outside), tradecraft, placement vs access, and indicators of espionage like undue affluence, foreign contact, and behavioral changes. They cover practical corporate implications, insider-threat prevention, and the R3 approach — Recognize, React, Report — inviting listener feedback.

This is a replay of Episode 17, released in 2025.