In this episode of CI Press, hosts Joe Sheridan and Jeremy Clark sit down with LTG Anthony R. Hale for an in-depth conversation on the evolution of Army intelligence and counterintelligence (CI) in an era of great power competition. Drawing on nearly four decades of service, LTG Hale provides a candid and strategic perspective on where Army CI has been, where it is headed, and what must change to remain effective against sophisticated adversaries.

The discussion explores CI transformation and modernization across the Army, including early pilot programs that demonstrated the operational value of centralized CI authorities and the importance of unity of effort. LTG Hale also breaks down the significance of incorporating Title 10, Section 7377 authorities into the National Defense Authorization Act, and what this means for the future of Army CI authorities, resourcing, and operational agility.

Beyond policy and structure, LTG Hale shares leadership lessons from his nearly 38-year career, insights into the integration of Army Counterintelligence Command and human intelligence, and his assessment of near-term strategic risks facing the force. He closes with practical advice for intelligence professionals on training, professional development, mentorship, and building the next generation of leaders.

This episode offers valuable insight for intelligence professionals, defense leaders, policymakers, and anyone focused on the future of Army modernization and CI reform.