In this episode, hosts Joe Sheridan and Jeremy Clark sit down with Dr. Trei McMullen, combat veteran, counterintelligence professional, entrepreneur, and conservative candidate for Florida State House District 2, for a discussion on the evolving role of counterintelligence at the state level.

The conversation explores Florida House Bill 945 and the broader movement toward state-led counterintelligence initiatives. Drawing on his military background and private-sector experience, Dr. McMullen provides a practitioner’s perspective on how states are positioning themselves to better detect, deter, and mitigate foreign intelligence threats within their own jurisdictions.

The episode also addresses national security issues with local impact, including school safety vulnerabilities, the rapid proliferation of drone technology, border-related security concerns, and the increasing necessity for synchronized counterintelligence tradecraft across federal and state partners. Throughout the discussion, the hosts examine both the promise and the complexity of decentralizing certain counterintelligence responsibilities while preserving coordination and unity of effort.

This episode offers a grounded, operationally informed look at how counterintelligence is moving beyond the federal sphere and into state policy conversations, and what that shift could mean for the future of domestic security in the United States.