In this high-energy episode of On The Fly!, host Joan Kaup brings back to the pod two globally minded founders whose paths collided inside Flywheel’s accelerator — and sparked a collaboration grounded in sustainability, product innovation, and a shared history of building businesses across Asia.

Flywheel is excited to welcome back Andrew Bliss, and Lucas Williamson, for a bonus conversation with both amazing founders. 

Andrew is the founder of EcoShell, who turn discarded eggshells into breakthrough materials used in plastics, packaging, footwear, and more. Lucas is the founder of Product Refinery, he is the design and engineering mind behind hundreds of consumer products brought from sketch to shelf.

Though their companies are different, their values align: design with intention, build sustainably, fail forward, and always tell the truth about what it takes to create physical products that last. 

Their work spans continents — from Cincinnati to Asia and back — transforming discarded materials into sustainable plastics and turning bold product ideas into market-ready reality.

💡 Listen to hear more about:

• The unexpected ways Taiwan and China shaped their careers
• What founders get wrong about manufacturing and supply chains
• Why sustainability is a design challenge—not just a materials challenge
• The power of advisory boards, mentors, and diverse support networks
• How Flywheel creates collisions that turn founders into collaborators
• Why Cincinnati is one of the most supportive environments for social entrepreneurs

This episode is a masterclass in global entrepreneurship, product innovation, and the gritty reality of building things that matter.

Learn more at EcoShell.eco and Product Refinery.co!

📣 Call to Action:
 At Flywheel Social Enterprise Hub, we believe in founders who build for both profit and purpose. Explore how we support entrepreneurs, connect coaches, and help social impact ideas grow at flywheelcincinnati.org.