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Cindy Gallop: AI bosses fuel and benefiting from toxic masculinity
A powerful discussion with the visionary entrepreneur and campaigner Cindy Gallop – founder and CEO of "Make Love not Porn" (MLNP) social platform. Our conversation delved into her unique entrepreneurial journey, the rise of toxic masculinity, and the critical role of human curation in content moderation.
Cindy has turned her illustrious advertising career into a lifelong pursuit of changing the world, her way — one daring project after another. After all her success in the advertising world, Cindy resigned as chairman of BBH in 2005 to do something different.
Today, she continues to work in branding and advertising as a consultant, but is also tending to some fascinating projects of her own. She launched MakeLoveNotPorn at TED2009, in an attempt to squash the myths of hardcore pornography and to begin a dialogue around how real people have sex.
Timestamps:
(00:00:00) – Preview
(00:04:28) – Cindy’s entrepreneurship journey and discovery of the toxic sexual habits of young men
(00:12:48) – Societies’ failure in teaching and understanding the meaning of good sexual values and positive behaviours
(00:25:06) – Why is there such a taboo around sex, and how toxic masculinity shaped the tech sector
(00:33:17) – How Cindy targets the right investors and her exit strategy with MLNP and her academy
(00:40:45) – How Cindy faces down the current rise of toxic masculinity and the prospering online manosphere
(00:50:43) – Why we need to urgently rebuild the future of the Internet through female and minority points of view
(00:52:01) – Cindy’s AI project built on Algorithm for Consent on exclusive MLNP “LVM” training data
(00:54:37) – The consequences of social media’s and BigTech’s failure to implement human-curation models to prioritise AI
(00:58:14) – How positive tech can influence mass behavioural change and sexual attitude at scale
Episode Notes & Citations:
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By Tim El-SheikhA powerful discussion with the visionary entrepreneur and campaigner Cindy Gallop – founder and CEO of "Make Love not Porn" (MLNP) social platform. Our conversation delved into her unique entrepreneurial journey, the rise of toxic masculinity, and the critical role of human curation in content moderation.
Cindy has turned her illustrious advertising career into a lifelong pursuit of changing the world, her way — one daring project after another. After all her success in the advertising world, Cindy resigned as chairman of BBH in 2005 to do something different.
Today, she continues to work in branding and advertising as a consultant, but is also tending to some fascinating projects of her own. She launched MakeLoveNotPorn at TED2009, in an attempt to squash the myths of hardcore pornography and to begin a dialogue around how real people have sex.
Timestamps:
(00:00:00) – Preview
(00:04:28) – Cindy’s entrepreneurship journey and discovery of the toxic sexual habits of young men
(00:12:48) – Societies’ failure in teaching and understanding the meaning of good sexual values and positive behaviours
(00:25:06) – Why is there such a taboo around sex, and how toxic masculinity shaped the tech sector
(00:33:17) – How Cindy targets the right investors and her exit strategy with MLNP and her academy
(00:40:45) – How Cindy faces down the current rise of toxic masculinity and the prospering online manosphere
(00:50:43) – Why we need to urgently rebuild the future of the Internet through female and minority points of view
(00:52:01) – Cindy’s AI project built on Algorithm for Consent on exclusive MLNP “LVM” training data
(00:54:37) – The consequences of social media’s and BigTech’s failure to implement human-curation models to prioritise AI
(00:58:14) – How positive tech can influence mass behavioural change and sexual attitude at scale
Episode Notes & Citations:
https://ceoretort.com/podcast/guest/2025/10/20/cindy-gallop-ai-bosses-fuel-and-benefit-from-toxic-masculinity/
Support our independence by becoming a member:
https://CEORetort.com/Support
Check out our new YouTube channel, The CEO Retort Extra: youtube.com/@ceoretortextra
Sponsors & Offers:
- Brain.fm – Peak your productivity on demand with Neuromusic. Get an extended 30-day free trial without limits. Go to Brain.fm/CEOR
- Ground News – See how media bias affects news coverage. Get 40% off top tier: https://check.ground.news/CEORetort
- Saily eSIM – Stay connected worldwide. Use code CEORetort5 for 5% off 10GB & 20GB plans: https://ceoretort.com/saily
Subscribe to The CEO Retort:
- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@CEORetort
- Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ceo-retort/id1767132889
- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5ytJdrSK0yGL2OZfTitnp8
Connect with Tim El-Sheikh:
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/timelsheikh