Sabira shares her experience working in waste management in Bangalore, highlighting the challenges and opportunities in the industry. The conversation then explores the concept of self-help groups and how they can formalize waste management practices.

In the second part of the episode, Sabira and Garr interview with Rob Lawson-Shanks, CEO of MOLG, who shares insights into their innovative approach to disassembling servers using automation and AI.

In this conversation, Rob from Molt discusses the journey towards circular manufacturing and the challenges in achieving circular design. The name 'MOLG' is derived from the poem 'Machines of Loving Grace' and represents the vision of a harmonious coexistence between humans and machines. The focus of MOLG is on e-waste and their first robot is designed to disassemble servers and enterprise-level laptop PCs.

The value of reuse and recycling is emphasized, as well as the importance of designing for multiple lives and adopting a product-as-a-service model. The conversation also touches on the productivity of machines compared to humans and the need for advocacy and simplification in the circular economy.