GRC & Me

CISO to CISO—Let's Get Real About AI


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The hype is real, but what’s the reality? In this episode of GRC & Me, we’re getting real about AI with Anecdotes CISO, Jake Bernardes, and LogicGate CISO, Nick Kathmann. They discuss the implications of the key differentiators between AI usage/governance in the EU versus the US, the rise of agentic AI, shadow AI, and the hidden risks of siloed governance. They share what truly keeps them up at night and offer guidance for evaluating new AI tools and building proactive defense. Tune in!

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