In this very special episode of City Talks Andrew Carter is joined by the Centre for Cities' now former Director of Policy and Research, Paul Swinney, to reflect on his 16 years at the Centre for Cities as he moves on to his next adventure. They discuss what's changed, and what hasn't, in the last two decades in the world of economic policy, what brought Paul to the Centre 16 years ago as well as some of his favourite moments during his tenure.