Episode 19 boasts a fascinating conversation between co-host Will, a combat veteran, and Joanna Naples-Mitchell, a human rights attorney working with families harmed by U.S. foreign military actions. Over the hour, we discuss the Department of Defense’s budget for making apology payments to such families (and how it largely goes unused); the challenges in choosing which families to represent and the inevitable compassion fatigue in such work; and the benefits to engaging non-profit organizations in military strategies as a way to mitigate civilian harm. 

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