Bert Ghezzi, an author and board member at ChristLife, joins Pete and Christy for an interview on the call to be a saint. Throughout the discussion Bert relays that everyone can and should live the life of a saint and gives some illuminating examples from his new book The Heart of a Saint. Also, there is some exciting news about the conversion of the lead guitarist of the band Korn and some updates on ChristLife's Discovering Christ course at UMBC.