In the launch episode, Holly Smithson and Jaye Connolly welcome Claire Roberts and Antony Roberts, co-founders of Full Fathom five, for a raw conversation on AI’s biggest illusions. They unpack why AI isn’t a panacea, what “hallucinations” really mean, who’s accountable when systems fail, and how bias can scale at speed.

The throughline: modern leadership is questions, not certainty and curiosity is a competitive advantage.