Welcome to the first episode of Into It - the podcast where best friends Clara Amfo and Munroe Bergdorf dive headfirst into whatever's got them talking that week. And what a week it is!

First up, Clara shares her experience hosting the London premiere of Kylie Minogue's new docuseries, and the two wax lyrical about why Kylie is, quite simply, unmatched. From her incredible ability to turn adversity into light, to her sustained pop dominance across five decades, Clara and Munroe unpack what makes the icon so magnetic.

Then the conversation turns to Olivia Rodrigo, who's found herself at the centre of an internet debate over the babydoll dresses she has worn as part of the campaign for her new album, "You Seem Pretty Sad for a Girl So in Love". Clara and Munroe dig into the deeper conversation around female pop stars reclaiming their sexuality on their own terms — and why society still struggles with it.

In the "Over It" segment, Munroe tackles their complicated relationship with true crime content and both hosts get thoroughly invested in the fast-developing saga of Katie Price and her boyfriend.

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Clara Amfo and Munroe Bergdorf are two pop culture obsessives with a penchant for rapid messaging each other around whatever is happening in the world they observe.

From the politics of pop, film to fashion, think pieces to random corners of the internet, the frivolous to the serious, they’re unpacking the moment to get into it and want you to be too.

New episodes every Monday.

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