The persistent gap between the rich and the poor has left many people disillusioned about how the economy and governments function. What does growth mean under these circumstances? Is it still useful to talk about a working class?

Labor MP Clare O'Neil takes on these questions and the policy questions they bear. She is a former mayor with a public policy pedigree, and has advised businesses in such disparate contexts as Wall Street and East Arnhem Land. In this episode, Clare is candid about her experience in politics, and what she thinks power is for.

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