Cris and Matt are joined by our friend Ronnie Rios from Claris, and rising star Michael Wallace from Empowered Data Solutions. Michael does an amazing demo of a solution he just released for free that allows you to interact with a FileMaker database entirely through natural speech. You have to see it to believe it. He then shows and explains how it works, and compares it to a solution that Ronnie showed at FM Engage that has similar features. This will spark your imagination.

Michael's Links
https://empowereddatasolutions.com

Ronnie's Links
https://www.folgerscoffee.com

Cris' Links
https://isolutionsai.com

Matt's Links
https://navarre.training

Matt and Cris review the AI focus of Engage in Austin TX, and weave in the main subject: The impact AI has on work, workers and jobs, and where it's headed. 

Cris referred to this video: Shopify CEO Tobi Lutke told employees in a memo that artificial intelligence is making its way across the company, including when it comes to hiring.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/07/shopify-ceo-prove-ai-cant-do-jobs-before-asking-for-more-headcount.html

One of the videos Cris showed was 
https://www.llama.com/events/llamacon/2025/

Then, Matt referred to Russell's Teapot about the burden of proof
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsN3DCCTqpo

And this, why AI Doomers are wrong about job replacement
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EQZe22pW0Fc

While presenting a JSON and Beyond session at the CodeWave conference in Spain, I had the chance to sit down with Javier Durá and Doug Wallis.

Javier of Afterdata and Jesús Sánchez of dbFile have been hosting this conference for years to serve the large and healthy FileMaker community in Spain. There were 61 people at the conference this year, and about 10 of us were non-native Spanish speakers. Sessions were in either English or Spanish, and all are welcome. The feel of the event was great - lots of time to socialize and meet other members in the community, and some deep and immediately useful content in the presentations. 

Doug Wallis is the Claris Platform Evangelist, and was previously the Senior Product Manager at Claris. Doug talked with Matt about the current and coming AI features in the platform, and lots of other product details. He presented the conference keynote, and we talked about that, his work evangelizing the platform, what meaningful activities are in process to extend the platform and attract new young developers, and much more.

Claris is very fortunate to have Doug and Rick Kalman as the Evangelists, preaching the gospel of FileMaker, patron saint of FileMaker developers. 

https://www.codewave.es
filemakermagazine.es
[email protected]

https://www.navarre.training

https://isolutionsai.com/

Alexis Allen teaches design classes at FM Design university and she is hosting a 1 day FileMaker conference in Toronto, with a training day following the conference. The dates are May 26-27 2025.

Alexis and Matt talk about Engage with all the AI and other goodness, approaches to design, our collaboration on teaching, and we nerd out a little bit about music. Many in our community are musicians, and the similarities in the two forms are instructive, and I think can lead us to be become better developers. Why? Music is a high art, which requires practice, and is all about beauty, expressiveness, but also it serves a purpose in life. Databases of course are much more functional, but they should also evoke a positive emotion. Does anyone actually read these notes? Well, I have fun writing them anyway. Shout to to Alexei Folger for always listening to the end.

Matt and Ian talk about running local models, the emergence of Agents, different models for Semantic Search, upcoming conferences, and more.

Agentic. It's the new thing.

Cris and Matt invite Ronnie Rios to talk about upcoming conferences, get deep into a use case that led directly to the cutting edge. It might seem crazy for a mature platform like FileMaker, but this is the BEST time to do what we do. Why? Because of the skills set of solving totally different kinds of problems in different industries with what looks like magic.


Here is a fascinating article about the subject
https://www.anthropic.com/research/building-effective-agents

Show Notes for Episode 24 :
12 Days of OpenAI: https://openai.com/12-days/
Gemini 2: https://blog.google/technology/google-deepmind/google-gemini-ai-update-december-2024/
Claris Talk +Ai custom GPT: https://chatgpt.com/g/g-iAiq4Ryjv-cl-ris-talk-ai-podcast
Crismas Elf: https://youtu.be/lt5ExfcXfoc

Media Credits: ELF (https://www.warnerbros.com/movies/elf) +"Pennies from Heaven":
(Composer: Arthur Johnston Lyricist: Johnny Burke)

Links:
OpenAi o1: https://openai.com/o1/
Devin: https://github.com/Significant-Gravitas/AutoGPTdevin
Cursor: https://www.cursor.com
OpenAI01 Ten tests: https://youtu.be/iINPTCQWy9E
Beyond text Generation: Unleashing The Power of Reasoning: https://isolutions.medium.com/large-language-models-beyond-text-generation-unleashing-the-power-of-reasoning-1a00145ca39e

See Cris Community Live: Jumpstart AI in Claris FileMaker: A step-by-step workshop on OCT 24: https://appleinc.webex.com/appleinc/j.php?MTID=mffff1fbb23023de8065bb335a32bfd8a
Custom GPT from webinar: https://chatgpt.com/g/g-6hoJRiBdI-jumpstart-ai-in-cl-ris-file-maker-workshop-gpt
See Cris at Claris Engage doing FileMaker and Ai Training Day: https://content.claris.com/claris-engage-2024-registration-community

Follow Cris:
https://www.youtube.com/@iSolutionsAI
https://www.linkedin.com/in/crisippolite/
https://twitter.com/ISolutionsai
https://www.isolutionsai.com

Follow Matt:
https://www.navarre.training
https://www.linkedin.com/in/navarre/
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Previous Episodes:
What is Chain of Thought: https://youtu.be/Q-7KDvduEuE
Ai and UI/UX with Alexis and Matt: https://youtu.be/WKe8IhcVBAY
Is Ai Conscious? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LAJ_D74NZI
Summary of WWDC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78habhMhS58
Matt Conference Interviews: https://youtu.be/qIlK6PgdsQ4
FileMaker 2024 AI release with Ronnie Rios: https://youtu.be/uuB397GfqZA
Are LLMs Databases? https://youtu.be/uNG4ei8thJk
Dr. Michael Schuckers: https://www.youtube.com/WgxKzfer7W0
Gabriel Woodger:   https://youtu.be/igAI2l3R9XM
Ernest Koe & Joris Aarts:  https://youtu.be/vgJhB2eDslo
Vector Databases:  https://youtu.be/od1OYW15cA0
Context: It’s not what you think:  https://youtu.be/V1kJdBYhCxU
Prompt Templates:  https://youtu.be/yuCCOB0o47E

Episode 23

This just in! Ryan McCann is the interim CEO of Claris, replacing Brad. He has been at Claris a long time and knows the community well. Matt and Ryan talked frankly about many issues including the FileMaker community, how to handle infinite feature requests, and the upcoming Engage conference.

Episode 21

Joris Aarts and Johan Hedman are the two brilliant minds behind the EngageU conference in Malmö Sweden. This year they had over 200 attendees, and reached many other milestones.

Matt sat down with Joris and John Renfrew to talk about their sessions and the conference. Joris did a session on the exciting things coming soon in Claris Studio, and John presented on OData and why it's a great way to integrate and communicate with FileMaker.

Episode 21

Romein was the youngest developer at the conference. He works with his father (who was also there) and also has his own company. Matt enjoyed getting fresh perspective on what FileMaker looks like in Romein's world, which parts he likes best, and how he integrates with it.