Lisa and Susan are ecstatic that friend of the podcast, Jill, could join this week's episode recap. Jill gives us her perspective as a local ABC manager/producer as she discusses who she’s met from Bachelor Nation and who she sees as the next Bachelor and Bachelorette as well as additions to Bachelor in Paradise. This week we discuss Clayton's 1 on 1 dates with Susie and Serene and a group date that includes a psychoanalyst who all help him further his journey to find love and a look ahead to the Women Tell All and the non-finale finale. Who stays and who goes? Who’s real and who’s fake? Does Clayton end up alone? Most importantly, what would have happened to Chris de Burgh if Susie didn’t pick the red dress??? Special thanks to Kim Crawford for getting us through this week's podcast!