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Click Bait: Why Even Tech Experts Fall for Social Engineering


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Dive into the fascinating world of social engineering with Joshua Crumbaugh and his guest Arnaud Lucas, CTO at Cambridge Mobile Telematics. This eye-opening conversation reveals why human psychology, not technology, sits at the heart of cybersecurity defenses.

From Arnaud's childhood journey into coding (when his father refused to buy him a gaming console and challenged him to code his own games) to his development of security-first approaches at major companies, the discussion explores how technical leaders can build truly effective security cultures.

You'll discover why role-based security training dramatically outperforms generic awareness programs, with studies showing it's 15 times more effective when contextual to daily work. The conversation tackles the counterintuitive truth that the best security measures don't add friction—they remove it, making secure options simpler than insecure alternatives.

The most chilling segment explores the rapid evolution of AI-enabled threats, particularly deepfakes that can clone voices and create hyper-targeted attacks. While technology has its place in defense, Arnaud and Joshua agree that organizational culture, robust processes, and employee empowerment provide the strongest protection.

Whether you're a security professional, developer, or business leader, you'll walk away with actionable insights on securing your organization through simplicity rather than complexity. Because as Joshua reminds us, "We're not hacking systems, we're hacking behaviors"—and understanding this principle is your best defense.

Joshua Crumbaugh is a world-renowned ethical hacker and a subject matter expert in social engineering and behavioral science. As the CEO and Founder of PhishFirewall, he brings a unique perspective on cybersecurity, leveraging his deep expertise to help organizations understand and combat human-centered vulnerabilities in their security posture. His work focuses on redefining security awareness through cutting-edge AI, behavioral insights, and innovative phishing simulations.

PhishFirewall uses AI-driven micro-training and continuous, TikTok-style video content to eliminate 99% of risky clicks—zero admin effort required. Ready to see how we can fortify your team against phishing threats? Schedule a quick demo today!

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Phishing For AnswersBy Joshua Crumbaugh, Founder & CEO of PhishFirewall