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In this episode, which originally aired in radio format on August 26th, 2021, I share a conversation I had with my husband, Whitman Bolles, about what he's learned in researching climate science over the past decade or so. I also talk on my own about the spiritual challenge of climate change, via a discussion of Joanna Macy's Work That Reconnects, and Jem Bendell's ideas on Deep Adaptation.