In this episode we speak to Julian Burnside QC, a leading Australian human rights campaigner, lawyer and the Greens candidate for the Senate seat of Victoria. We discuss Manus and Naru, the Australian government's handling of coronavirus, Bill Shorten, Julian's 2019 House of Representatives campaign, the case of Bruce Trevorrow, why people are climate change deniers and why Julian is standing for the Greens. 

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