"Dark Optimism is, in part, a perspective which is not afraid of seeking the truth — even when that truth is unpalatable or feels overwhelming. By exploring the unknown we can see it for what it is, rather than what we might fear it to be. Where there is darkness present we face it with an indomitable belief in the potential of life and humankind."

Those words are from the website of our friend Shaun Chamberlin, a researcher, writer and activist continuing to carry the torch of giants like Michael Dowd, who brought us the "Post-Doom" philosophy. In this episode we let ourselves look at all the things we MIGHT NOT be able to accomplish in trying to save the world, and sit with what that means for our future. But realism is not pessimism, and seeing with clear eyes allows us to make this life meaningful, no matter where it leads.