Riley Smith is someone who knows and appreciates climbing - both indoors and out: he started aged around 8. His new book focuses on climbs around Dunedin - but goes beyond being just a guidebook.

Climber Riley Smith on why the sport's popularity is surging

Smart, in-depth and relentlessly curious, host Kathryn Ryan dives into the stories shaping New Zealand and its people. Interviews and expert analysis from around the world and at home. It’s where big ideas are unpacked and everyday life explored.

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Climber Riley Smith on why the sport's popularity is surging

Climber Riley Smith on why the sport's popularity is surging