Damon invites fellow Johnnie, friend, and philosophy grad student Ben Crispell on the program to talk about the horror of philosophy as explored in Eugene Thacker's In the Dust of this Planet. The conversation contains, much like the book itself, a combination of concept-exploring, cultural observations and copious references, from HP Lovecraft to Heidegger to monster movies. Through the lens of the horror genre (broadly defined), Thacker blends philosophical, theological, and pop-cultural elements to address the apocalyptic and existential threats which seem to characterize our modern world. 

"The world is increasingly unthinkable - a world of planetary disasters, emerging pandemics, tectonic shifts, strange weather, oil-drenched seascapes, and the furtive, always-looming threat of extinction. In spite of our daily concerns, wants, and desires, it is increasingly difficult to comprehend the world in which we live and of which we are a part. To confront this idea is to confront an absolute limit to our ability to adequately understand the world at all - an idea that has been a central motif of the horror genre for some time."